Puppet Masters of the Pandemic. Part 2: What Did The CIA Do in Wuhan?”

Guest Post by Robert Malone

From Part I – the interview left of with the big question of who is the puppet master? What’s behind all this propaganda and control over the past three years? I spoke of different theories that people had put out there, and ended with the beginning of the hypothesis that the CIA may in fact be that controlling element. Part II picks up the thesis there.

From Part I: Dr. Robert Malone: We <Bret Weinstein, Steve Kirsch and myself> talked about emergent phenomena, that this might just be the consequence of simultaneous things happening and separate actors acting on their own initiatives, and the result would be a vector sum of things (controlling the propaganda and globalized governmental policies). I’ve never felt comfortable with that as an explanation for why we would see this amazing harmonization of propaganda, censorship, messaging strategies, technical strategies like the purchasing of influencers, et cetera, globally.

Then, a colleague … a close colleague of mine who actually employs a former director of the CIA were discussing who is the puppet master? What’s behind all this? We had a discussion in which he related a conversation with his employee (former DCIA) regarding the global power and reach of the CIA, in which the former DCIA concluded that the CIA was currently the most powerful organization in the world, perhaps the most powerful global organization in human history. This is one of those things I haven’t wanted to believe…

Part II

If you are subjected on a daily basis to this advanced technology of nudging and information control and censorship, control of narrative, <governments and NGO> cooperating with press, cooperating with social media so that every single thing you encounter is manipulated to support the agenda and the narrative of whomever the dominant force is that is propagating this? How can you come to any autonomous conclusion about what should be done?

Why would any American citizen want to believe that their country was intimately involved in potentially driving this whole COVID crisis? I can’t imagine that. And yet I keep seeing signs of our intelligence community and particularly Five Eyes alliance (with GCHQ in the UK) being deeply involved, and appearing to be the primary driver. For instance, MI6 (The Secret Intelligence Service of the United Kingdom which is involved with the covert overseas collection and analysis of human intelligence) being involved in the editing of Wikipedia including my own entries, as well as anything having to do with Ivermectin. The reveals from Australia, New Zealand, and particularly Canada, about the involvement of each of their departments of defense organizations in deployment of these very aggressive fifth-generation warfare campaigns against their own citizens. The Nudge Units in the UK, the harmonization of messaging, particularly in methods deployed across the Five Eyes nations, and as we’ve often previously explained as well, they planned it all out during Event 201, which was sponsored by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Maybe that’s why that all happened.

Veronica : The WHO and the Johns Hopkins University.

Dr. Robert Malone: Right, the Johns Hopkins has, particularly that unit, a longstanding affiliation with the CIA and then…

Veronica : They have their tentacles everywhere nationally? Oh my gosh.

Dr. Robert Malone: Absolutely. Okay. I’m talking to this with my colleague and he says, “Robert, you know?” As I mentioned, this gentleman happens to employ a former director of the CIA. He said, “I asked my colleague, my worker the other day. Does he think the CIA is the most powerful organization in the world right now?” And the gentleman thought about it for a while and he said,

Okay. The CIA.

I run into people saying this in Europe, my European friends often… well, there are various fringe political elements. Many are socialists. So, I always discounted what they would say, but they would say that, for instance, Italy has two masters. They’re Brussels – the European Union, and the CIA. When they would say CIA, my internal dialog was like, “State Department maybe. United States government maybe, why CIA?”

The CIA is an organization that would have the capability to deploy this. This is an organization that did found the World Economic Forum, that’s well documented. This is an organization that was intimately involved in what was going on at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. This is an organization that, through its former employee (and still intimately integrated) Dr. Michael Callahan, was busy spreading disinformation to me in real time. I experienced that as a first-person experience. And then I’ve had various third parties come to me and share various information about what they’ve observed within “the agency”. That’s what led me finally to the tipping point of coming to the conclusion that I can’t explain the cascade of events any other way, other than concluding that our intelligence community and the extended Five Eyes alliance were at the center of all of this.

Veronica :  If so, what were they trying to accomplish?

Dr. Robert Malone: I’ve just gone through basically hypothesis testing and what are the data supporting it? And now you’re asking me about motivation, which I always resist, but I’m going to speculate.

Number one: as I mentioned on Bannon, one of the things that is true about the modern intelligence community, the CIA, is its hyper compartmentalized. We have bureaucracies, administrative groups within this structure that are semi-autonomous, and even more so because of In-Q-Tel. It is a fact that the CIA through DARPA created Moderna. In-Q-Tel continues to capitalize the development and deployment of mRNA vaccines. The mRNA vaccine technology is intimately linked to the intelligence community. For whatever reason, they have selected this as their horse that they’re going to ride for medical countermeasure development and rapid response.

Veronica : I’m sorry, all mRNA vaccines or only Moderna?

Dr. Robert Malone: All mRNA vaccines. This was another thread that I was surprised to learn about is Scott Gottlieb of Pfizer-

Veronica : /FDA.

Dr. Robert Malone: Yes- Formerly FDA. He has strong intelligence community ties and he directly intervened with US policy at a point in time when there was a sudden shift from an emphasis on Moderna to Pfizer, and I know from other colleagues that have contacted me during this outbreak that sat on the management committee for

Moderna for Operation Warp Speed, that it was not Moderna managing that product. It was the US government/DoD managing that product development.

Veronica : Operation Warp Speed was managed, well, officially at least by the HHS and DOD together.

Dr. Robert Malone: Yes, well put.

Veronica : Well, it was made to facilitate the public-private partnership.

Dr. Robert Malone: Well, you’re choosing key words.

<public-private partnership is a modern euphemism for corporatism, which is itself the true meaning of fascism, not the distorted meaning which corporate media has created and weaponized as a synonym for “far right” when in fact fascism emerged from socialism>

Veronica : It’s the keywords from official description on their website.

Dr. Robert Malone: Absolutely.

Veronica : I’m not taking it out of my head.

Dr. Robert Malone: The government set up a committee of government personnel that made daily operational decisions about the development and selection of dosing and other characteristics of that vaccine. The way I’ve heard it from other sources is that Tony Fauci was actually really aggravated by Rick Bright. You remember Rick Bright, former head of BARDA, eventually got run out and is now with the Rockefeller?. Okay. He was really aggravated by Rick Bright unilaterally authorizing large block of funding for the development of the Janssen adenovirus vaccine, which now has been pulled from the market. That he only wanted to see advancement of the mRNA tech. You’ll recall that the Moderna, or the original version of the Moderna vaccine was jointly developed with the Vaccine Research Center at NIH, which is directly under the guidance of Tony Fauci (this included large royalty payments to directly NIAID employees, including Tony Fauci. No conflict on interest there).

By the way, it’s always amazes me, people blame me for these vaccines. They never cite the people that actually engineered them at the NIH and at Moderna, but that’s another tangent (it is pretty clear that many of these people are getting paid by the US government to attack me via 5th gen warfare – basically propaganda).

Anyway, the govies who received these large royalty payments have all pretty much retired with very large paychecks because of the royalties that they’ve received. Of course, no one will disclose how much those royalties were, not even to congressional investigators. That’s a whole another thread.

We had the government directly involved in managing the development of the Moderna products. We had the CIA through DARPA funding Moderna directly. They seeded it. They created it, okay. We have In-Q-Tel, the largely autonomous now venture capital arm of the CIA. They’ve got so much cash, they don’t really need a government budget anymore to do whatever they want to do. This gets to the point of how powerful the CIA is.

It is largely increasingly autonomous from the federal budget and certainly autonomous from congressional oversight because a lot of this is hidden in the dark budget. When we talk about administrative state, it isn’t just a ethereal buzzword or slang that one throws about because it’s convenient and it gets people excited. It is an actual thing. It is increasingly autonomous.

A lot of this stuff is managed by the senior executive service, which is this group of federal employees that are immune from being fired, as I have written about before. They have their own flag. (These 7,000+/-) people that are the permanent bureaucracy that run the government. The senior executive service really runs the government. The president doesn’t. This convergence of all these threads is fascinating as information has come out about the hiding of stuff from Congress and congressional oversight concerning UAPs. One of the quotes that came out that I think is just absolutely golden is the senior executive service and a lot of these administrators see elected politicians (including the President) as “temporary government employees”.

From their point of view, the politicians are just here for a little while and they can disregard them, because the senior executive service really runs the country. That’s where we’re at right now.

What we have seen over the last three years, at least what I think I’ve seen very clearly, is the fusion of the federal bureaucracy and the intelligence community. We see this with all of the widespread censorship, for instance, that’s come out in the Twitter files and now in the Facebook files. We see this direct involvement of a huge range of agencies from Department of Homeland Security, FBI, CIA, et cetera, directly intervening.

Of course, it’s really gone on steroids under the Biden administration, with the executive branch directly intervening with the media and social media to promote their approved narrative and to suppress alternative narratives, which is really what the censorship is. That’s where we’re at, we really do have a rogue administration, a rogue nation state, and we absolutely have a rogue intelligence community, which for whatever reason believes that it’s in its interest, its global geopolitical interests to cooperate with the CCP in this area of bio welfare technology development. This appeared to have happened at Wuhan Institute of Virology. We’ve got multiple lines of evidence that-

Veronica : Who do you intend to use this biotechnology against, if we are geopolitical enemies, then who are we to deploy this thing.

Dr. Robert Malone: That’s the thing, okay. Now we have-

Veronica : Well, exactly. We’re not what we’re saying. My point is… Well, to me it looks like this virus was developed to be deployed against all of us.

Dr. Robert Malone: When you get down to the why, all you can do is speculate because we don’t have any direct evidence. That’s why this recent essay that we put out that had a deep dive into the Kissinger Report, and subsequent national security directives from Gerald Ford and multiple other memos which establishes depopulation as a US government priority, capping global population at eight billion, which we almost hit in 2020, a coincidence at best. <Global human population has now exceeded 8 billion>. We’ve had these policies which extend broadly and are strangely consistent with a number of the research activities and tests that have been deployed by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in Africa and in India, having to do a sterilization of girls in particular. The advocacy for abortion, advocacy for surgical sterilization of males and females, advocacy of development of new hormonal injectable therapies that were long-lasting, etc.

That’s one example of a possible agenda, and it’s one that many people have speculated about throughout this, that this was really about a depopulation agenda. I can’t say that it was about a depopulation agenda or was it about an economic agenda (as Ernst Wolff has advanced) or was it about something else? What I can say-

Veronica : But none of those are mutually exclusive?

Dr. Robert Malone: None of them are mutually exclusive, and I can say we now have the evidence to say that…

Well, yes, in fact, talking about a depopulation agenda on the part of the US government as national policy is not a conspiracy theory. It is absolutely grounded in documentation that is now been declassified. It’s publicly available. It was codified by Henry Kissinger. Henry Kissinger is absolutely one of the prime mentors of Klaus Schwab. Henry Kissinger was intimately involved in the creation of the World Economic Forum. Henry Kissinger just came back from meetings with Xi in which he was widely lauded as a great friend of the CCP in China. I conclude that the preponderance of evidence, in my mind, suggests that the intelligence community was involved before, during and during the technical events of management of the COVID crisis. And I know that for a fact because of-

Veronica : Vaccination campaigns?

Dr. Robert Malone: The development of the vaccines and the various public policies that were deployed, including the ventilation, overuse of toxic pharmaceuticals that were not tested adequately.

Veronica : Maybe they were?

Dr. Robert Malone: They did not meet standard protocols at the FDA for testing. That’s why I’m saying. Many speculate about the incentivized use of remdesivir as well as the over ventilation in US hospital treatment protocols as an intentional act for depopulation? I can’t go there because I don’t have evidence saying that these were causally linked. That’s speculation. I do have evidence that says, “But we did have a depopulation agenda.” That’s a fact. I do have evidence that say that we intended to cap global population at eight billion. I do have data saying that we were hitting eight billion (globally) in the beginning of 2020, but I don’t have the smoking gun memo internally saying, “Hey, we should implement these kinds of policies because it would benefit our social security system, reduce the burden of elderly and diseased within the United States government and all the associated expenses with that.”

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