The untold story of the FBI’s J6 pipe bomber “Person of Interest #2”
🚨EXCLUSIVE: The untold story of the FBI’s J6 pipe bomber “Person of Interest #2”🚨
If what the @FBI’s January 6 pipe bomber “Person of Interest #2” (POI2) told me about his FBI interview is true, there is further proof that the Bureau has covered up, or “deleted,” additional… pic.twitter.com/tZehoUKQoV
— Steve Baker (@SteveBakerUSA) September 7, 2026
If what the @FBI’s January 6 pipe bomber “Person of Interest #2” (POI2) told me about his FBI interview is true, there is further proof that the Bureau has covered up, or “deleted,” additional video footage about what happened when the RNC pipe bomb was allegedly discovered by Karlin Younger on January 6, 2021.
I will not reveal the identity or any other identifying information about the FBI’s POI2 in the January 6 pipe bomb saga. I also won’t discuss the full five hours of personal interview time with POI2; instead, I will focus on two key pieces of information he gave me.
As a primer for those not already following this story in detail, here is a brief rundown of the facts in POI2’s case and why the FBI was initially interested in him as a “person of interest”:
-POI2 does not live in the Greater D.C. area. He lives in a large American city in a state that does not border D.C.
-From news releases, congressional reports, FBI statements, and an FBI whistleblower disclosure, we know that POI2 was visiting a lifelong acquaintance (POI3) at his residence in Fall Church, VA, over the course of January 4 – 7, 2021.
-POI2 used POI3’s Metrorail card for travel back and forth to the District on the 5th and 6th.
-POI2 caught the attention of law enforcement investigators when he emerged from D.C.’s Metro South rail station on January 5, changed hats and put on dark sunglasses, then beelined straight across the street from the station into the Rumsey Court alley behind the Republican National Committee headquarters. It was in that alley that POI2 began taking photos of “numbers.” Numbers on trash cans, dumpsters, door addresses, and the like. According to the FBI, POI2 planned to use those photographs in a forthcoming book. (To date, that book has not been published.) Then, after walking around Capitol Hill all day long, and even attending some of the J5 protest events, POI2 ducked back into the same alley for a few minutes — after dark — before returning to the Metro South station across the street from the RNC. He returned to Falls Church via the train, where POI3 picked him up by car, and they went back to POI3’s home. POI2 then returned to DC the next morning to attend Trump’s speech at The Ellipse on the 6th.
-POI2 was cleared of suspicion following two FBI interviews on January 19, 2021, at his residence in his home city. These interviews took place six days after the FBI pulled their Special Operations Group (SOG) surveillance team off POI3’s home on January 13, just two days after they were deployed to watch the infamous Falls Church, VA condominium address where we now know POI3 shared a firewall between his address and the then residence of former Capitol Police officer Shauni Kerkhoff. The subject of our November 8, 2025 story published by Blaze Media.
How I came to spend five hours with POI2
I met with POI2 twice, on December 11 and 12, 2025. On the 11th, a member of our team accompanied me: a retired FBI veteran of 25 years now working as a private investigator. That first interview lasted for three hours, and then the next day I met with POI2, just him and me, for another two hours.
I arrived in POI2’s home city on the 10th to do some early recon. We had POI2’s name (which I’d acquired from a congressional source), and his address, but we didn’t have a current phone number. After running an extensive background on him, we learned a lot about his life and work, social media, friends and close associates, and even where he attends church, but we still didn’t have a phone number to call him and ask for a meeting.
Most interesting of all, POI2 is a prolific international traveler. In one recent year, he had logged over 40 international flights. So we didn’t even know if he’d be in the country, much less at home, if we knocked on this door.
My recon of his address was a huge disappointment. His apartment building is one of those old inner-city manufacturing plants refitted into modern, upscale housing. The entire property is ringed by tall wrought-iron fencing, with electronic security for entry into the parking garage, foot traffic, and into the building itself. There was no visible way for us to just pay him a visit for a “knock and talk.” Perhaps we could have “buzzed” him from an exterior gate, but I didn’t get that far that day.
Later that evening, I picked up my team member from the airport — the retired FBI guy — and we went to dinner for a long, late-night planning session. We identified a couple of strong local personal connections he had via his Facebook page, and we planned to visit them first, get more info about POI2, and maybe even get their help reaching out to him.
At 9:00 a.m. the next morning, we arrived at the home of someone who seemed like they might be closest to him. We were lucky and hit a home run on the first swing. Without the long details, our “story” about why we were looking for POI2 — their close friend — worked like a charm, and we were invited into their home. Our host called POI2, and within two hours POI2 joined us at our new friend’s home. Luckily, POI2 had returned to the States from an overseas trip only the day before.
For the next three hours, I asked most of the questions while my partner listened and observed. Based on my partner’s 25+ years of experience with the FBI, he believed POI2 answered everything truthfully … “Or, he’s a very, very good liar.”
My partner had to fly back home the next morning, but I had many follow-up questions for POI2. I reached out again early in the morning, and he agreed to meet me at a coffee shop in his neighborhood.
***(On a personal timeline aside: during my second interview with POI2, I was only nine days away from my heart failure episode, and was already struggling to breath after the slightest of physical exertions.)***
The most significant reveal
We met at 1:30 p.m., and spent another two full hours together. During this session, we had a detailed conversation about his two interviews with two FBI special agents. Both of those interviews were on the same day. January 19, 2021.
POI2 had explained to the FBI agents that the reason he returned to the Rumsey Court alley behind the RNC was that he remembered there were several trash cans in the alley, and he wanted to dispose of an empty plastic water bottle before going back to the train station.
I asked him why he didn’t simply throw the bottle away at the Metrotrain station. He shrugged. From our video review, POI2 only stayed in the alley for about three to four minutes. But if what he revealed to me is true, it is one of the most significant discoveries in our years-long pipe bomb investigation.
POI2 shared with me that the FBI agents told him that he had thrown the empty water bottle away in the very trash container next to where the bomb would be placed a little over an hour and a half later.
Why that is significant
FIRST, it reveals that the FBI most likely had video of him depositing that empty bottle into that container. Yes … they could have taken DNA samples of every item in that trash can, but then they would also have needed DNA from POI2 in their database. POI2 didn’t offer that option as their explanation. He assumed they saw him on camera.
I can personally attest that there is currently a camera in Rumsey Court that would cover the area where the bomb was placed, but I do not know if that same camera existed in January of 2021. But if they did observe POI2, on camera, tossing the bottle in the trash can immediately next to where the bomb was placed, then the FBI most certainly has video of Karlin Younger — the FirstNet employee — who discovered that device at approximately 12:35 p.m. the next day, January 6. Only 25 minutes before Vice President Mike Pence was to drop the gavel on the joint session of Congress to certify the 2020 Electoral College presidential vote. Only about 18 minutes before the first breach of that outer bike rack barricade on the west Capitol grounds, led by Ray Epps, Ryan Samsel, and other suspicious characters.
Many investigators, including Congressman Loudermilk and his committee, have posited that the two devices placed by the gray hooded bomber on J5 were retrieved at some point in the early morning hours of J6, then replaced just before their “discovery” a few minutes either side of 1:00 p.m.
The allegedly “deleted” video from the two DNC cameras that provided the footage of the gray hooded bomber placing a device on the evening of J5 would have also shown us what happened after midnight. Whether or not the two plainclothes Capitol Police counter-surveillance officers were the ones who replaced the device just before reporting its discovery to the Secret Service agents attending VP-Elect Kamala Harris’s presence inside the building at the time. (Article to that story linked in comments below.)
A camera aimed at the RNC drop location would give us the same information about what happened during the night, and when Karlin Younger discovered that device while walking back and forth and doing her laundry. The FBI claims that the footage from the two DNC cameras — after that device was planted under a bench — was accidentally deleted. (No one buys that story.)
Those two FBI agents may also have inadvertently revealed to POI2 that video footage exists from that dark corner of the RNC/Capitol Hill Club alley on J5 and J6.
Both missing videos, if they were to surface, would either invalidate all conspiracy theories about the pipe bombs, or confirm the prevailing theories and circumstantial evidence pointing to law enforcement participation and a multi-agency conspiracy.
SECOND, if the two FBI agents were telling POI2 the truth about that specific trash container, then it brings into question all of POI2’s own statements about why he returned to that alley after dark.
That very trash can was in the furthest and darkest corner of the RNC/Capitol Hill Club side of Rumsey Court. He would have had to ignore several of the first and most clearly visible, well-lit trash bins upon his arrival into that alley by way of the walkway between the RNC and the Capitol Hill Club. Instead, he made a hard left behind the Capitol Hill Club and headed toward the darkest corner of the alley, from which the view of that trash can was also likely obstructed by one or more cars typically parked between him and what would be his line of sight to that dark corner.
This implies POI2 was either on a recon mission to determine the best drop location for the second device, or, as one retired, formerly high-ranking law enforcement officer has theorized, he may have placed an AirTag or other electronic beacon to lead the bomber to the most advantageous location to deposit the bomb.
Near the end of my second meeting with POI2, he shared with me several photos of “numbers” he took in that alley. He shared the “time and location” data from those original photos on his iPhone. He also gave me screenshots from his phone’s call history of the exact moment the two FBI agents phoned him for both interviews on January 19, 2021. He was very earnest, forthcoming, and eager to answer all my questions. (Photo examples in comments below.)
As a person, I like POI2. We could be friends. But either he or the FBI is lying about what happened in that dark corner behind the Capitol Hill Club. (Maybe both?)
Just as POI2 and I were about to say goodbye and shake hands, I opened my phone to show him one photo. It was the shot I took of the two side-by-side doors at the condo complex in Falls Church, VA. The door on the left was the home of his lifelong acquaintance, POI3. The door on the right was Shauni Kerkhoff’s January 6 residence.
I asked him:
“Can you make this math work for me?”
He replied:
“No, man. That’s so weird.”
We have stayed in contact and spoken many times since those two days in December.






























