Small Arms War Lasers: Western Types, Techniques, and Tactics

Small Arms Lasers: Types, Techniques, and Tactics

Lasers are here to stay. They aren’t going anywhere, and they will only become more ubiquitous and powerful. I used lasers every single day in Baghdad and had no less than 2 types of lasers available. We used them in training as well to great effect. Most of the lessons I learned regarding lasers was learned on the streets of Baghdad. They can blind you and your equipment and the visible lasers and IR lasers have a very, very powerful psychological effect on your target.

Types of Small Arms Field Lasers: Laser Aiming and Ground Commander’s Pointers

Laser Aiming Devices: Used in conjunction with NODs, the IR or Infrared Laser Aiming Device allows the shooter to aim their weapon using an invisible laser(to the naked eye) without the use of their weapon mounted optic. These lasers are zeroed using a specific zero template similar to the zero targets you use for your weapon; However they are slightly different. The point of zero depends on where you mounted your Laser Aiming Device on your weapon. This will be specified and listed in your LAD‘s manual. Follow the directions and have faith in your equipment. It works; Make no mistake about that.

Be sure to zero your visible and IR laser device as, sometimes, they are not “slaved” to each other, and require the process be repeated for each laser. Sometimes, if the IR laser is on the left and the visible is on the right of the device, the point of aim is different. Pay attention, take your time, and take the time to observe the offset from your optic. It should, most likely, be slightly offset from your red dot or reticle. This is typical, especially if you purchased a military spec RDS or LOPV.

FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS!

The Ancient PEQ-2 (Pictured Below)

The Old, But Reliable PEQ-4 (Pictured Below)

The Modern, and Excellent, PEQ-15 (Pictured Below)

A quality, but rather expensive, Steiner DBAL-A3 (Pictured Below)


Ground Commander’s Pointer: Used to mark targets on the ground, but not for guided aerial or ground munitions. This is a significantly more power laser so that drones, helicopters, observation blimps, and aircraft can actually see what the commander is pointing at. Remote observation systems, like a camera/thermal/NOD combination, have trouble picking up standard power, weapon mounted Laser Aiming Devices. This is a specialty item you will likely not encounter, but if you found one, I wanted you to know what it was. Think of this device as a powerful laser pointer used in classrooms, offices, PowerPoint and whiteboard presentations, and as cat toys. It’s just a more powerful version; Same Concept. It’s used to point to things.

The Old Model GCP or Ground Commander’s Pointer (Pictured Below)

The New Model GCP, Although Variations Exist (Pictured Below)

Another style of GCP.

 

The Uses Of Lasers 

Lasers are not just used to shoot targets with small arms or blow up targets with bombs and missiles.

Pointing: You can use your laser to point to things of interest, so that your men will observe it. Or you can point to targets you want you men to fire on. A visible laser gives your men without nods something obvious to aim at. So holding your visible laser on a target will suppress your target with the use of a visible laser, and also draw fire. You men simply aim at the laser light they would aim at a target. The visible lasers, if powerful enough, are essentially very long range flashlights.

Lassoing: You can make little circles on targets or points of interest. This could be a target house, hilltop, tree, or vehicle. The effect looks like you are “lassoing” a target with your laser.

Illumination: You can use your IR laser to illuminate under porches, down holes, into bunkers, or into vehicles from a surprising distance away. You can plainly see anything hiding and moving in these locations, especially if your NODs don’t have the ambient light to see. It has the effect of back lighting under a porch or inside a bunker and can even work on bushes and scrubs to see if there is anyone hiding in there. Pointing at a vehicle, you can see the occupants with greater detail; Even vehicles with dark tints. You can use your IR laser to light up nearly anything with greater detail. This works the same as an IR Illuminator, which is basically an IR flashlight, but from a much farther distance, and it will throw significantly more “light” into these high threat areas so that your NODs are more effective. The concentrated beam is easier to focus on specifics, instead of acting like a generalized search light like the IR illuminator does.

Drawing Shapes or Writing: You can use your laser to draw arrows, or write letters. The ‘Arrow” method is pretty self explanatory. You simple draw an arrow pointing left, right, up, or down to get your men to look in another direction. Follow this method up with a lasso on the new target or point of interest. You may need to give this visual command several times, so expect for it to take several moments to be observed, read, and understood. You can also write messages with your laser.

Example: An “S” for “Shift” followed by an “F” for “Fire”. The possibilities are endless, and you should plan and practice several different messages with with your team. Make sure they don’t interpret the message as “Stop-Fire” or some other nonsense. Another method to use an “R” and “P” and “2”. For “Rally-Point-2”. Or, again, a “P” and “L” and “2” for “Phase-Line-2”.  There are no shortage of messages.

When Writing, I suggest starting your letters from the top to the bottom, and then crossing the “t’s” and dotting the “i’s” (so to speak). Much like we were all taught in elementary school. Cursive letters are a big NO-NO; They are too complex and not everyone is taught cursive. USE CAPITAL LETTERS. Make them large, but not too large.

Distraction Device or Warning Signal: Flashing your visible laser into a vehicle causes the whole vehicle to light up like a strobe light. The effect is very obvious and can be used to warn vehicles that they are entering a zero tolerance zone. At which point they will be fired upon if they do not stop and turn around. This also works for window watches behind glass, or you can simply flash the visible laser on someones chest, reminding them that you are, in fact, prepared to kill them and a weapon is pointed at them.

Aiming:  You can use your laser to shoot stuff. Assuming you zeroed it properly and trained with it.

Frying: You can use your laser to fry optics like security cameras, NODs, and Thermals. However, this requires quite a powerful laser, but you would be surprised cause it doesn’t take much to permanently disable a camera or digital optical device. If your laser isn’t powerful enough, holding the laser on these targets will disable them temporarily.

Morse Code:   ….   ..-   .-.      -..   ..-   .-.      …  ..  .-.

Blinding: A powerful laser can permanently blind a person. A weak laser will temporarily blind them like a long range tac-light. The choice is situation dependent; Your call. A flash of laser light will ruin someone’s night vision for several minutes at which point they are out of the fight.

Shine Search: Use your IR emitting devices to search for reflective materials. You’ll find flashlight reflectors, bottles, aluminum cans, vehicles lights. Anything reflective will bounce some of that IR light back to you, and it highlights these objects.

 

Don’t use your laser to point to, or at, any of your men. They can’t see it, even if they have NODs they cannot understand you, and you are gonna get them shot in a friendly fire incident or they will shoot at you.

 

Thanks for reading and sound off in the comments if I missed anything.

-J. P.

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About the Author: Johnny Paratrooper

Born and Raised in Baltimore City, Maryland. History Degree. 8 Years Airborne Infantry and Scouts Platoon. Iraq Veteran. 4-5 Years as a doorman, bar back, and bouncer in Baltimore. Worked in Construction, Heavy Equipment Demolition, Corporate Security, Sales, Forest Service contractor, and the Hospitality Industry. Raised Catholic. Hobbies are race cars and sport bikes. Side projects are HAM radio credentials and long range shooting. MY EMAIL IS [email protected]. Founder of Green Dragon Academy https://www.patreon.com/GreenDragonAcademy

66 Comments

  1. Anonymous February 18, 2021 at 15:09

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  2. Truth in Tension February 18, 2021 at 15:26

    Thank you for the article. Your articles are excellent training that are really useful.

    • Johnny Paratrooper February 18, 2021 at 15:37

      Thanks Brother. I’m glad the messages are clear and well received.

      • spaceman February 19, 2021 at 18:35

        Hi Johnny, I’ve got a 5-20 digi nv hunting scope with a IR flood on my recci 11.5. Had it for a while and find the BDC/rangefinder works nicely. Don’t have the cake at the moment to upgrade. Which laser would work best, IR or visible. I’m a lonewolf at this point, but trying to get the best kit to benefit a team scenario if we make it that far.
        Thanks

        • spaceman February 19, 2021 at 18:37

          The BCM was not a cheap upgrade, but worth it!!

        • Johnny Paratrooper February 19, 2021 at 18:45

          An IR laser would work best. The Holosun has a great following with several of the other contributors and sponsors of this site. I, personally, recommend the Steiner DBAL-A3 because I was told it has the best flood light and a crisp IR laser. Which I can confirm it does. It reminds me of the PEQ-15, which I used for most of my military charter.

          • spaceman February 19, 2021 at 19:09

            Would that be a better investment than a can? Trying to get the most out of my FRN’s before they go tits up. And a BIG thanks to all you patriots that expend your valuable time teaching us civies. Been watching the basics, ROTC youtube classes on squad/platoon tactics, but the stuff you guys post is GOLD!

          • Johnny Paratrooper February 19, 2021 at 19:20

            Hey thanks brother. I really appreciate hearing this.
            I know that I have learned so much since joining the military and leaving the military to explore other calibers and weapons. I never fired a high caliber weapon before joining the military, so I know this can be a lot. Which is why we are here to help.
            A can is a great investment. I recommend a basic can. You don’t have to break the bank on a can. They are all pretty much the same thing. The short titanium cans are obviously lighter, which is a consideration if you don’t lift weights or hike much.

          • spaceman February 19, 2021 at 19:45

            Just got the JPC for the plates, gonna start hiking/snowshoeing in it soon. Suppose I’ll go for the can first, as i hv a IR spotlight good to 200m. Make me a much harder target to find if the night time becomes the right time
            Hang in there
            I have a feeling the “silent majority” is about to find their voice
            If we meet on the field, dont shootme, you’ll know its me because i’ll be fu@kin up the hand signals left, right and center

        • SOG February 19, 2021 at 19:43

          Brother i would get the IR laser now for 560-800 Holosun or Dbal, I have the I2 which is about $800-$900 now
          you could get a flash can or blast diverter to assist with flash now until you get your can
          then i would get you a CAN, the can can be anywhere from $500-$1200 with a $200 stamp.or you can get stamp for $200 and then do the DIY can!
          I would get you the IR laser, have on deck then do the can after since its more money and wait time. Just my opinion

          • spaceman February 19, 2021 at 22:41

            Right on, hard to navigate this new reality. Mentally prepared(12 yrs SHTF/golden horde preps,) but kit ain’t cheap, or user friendly for newbies. Didn’t even know I could get training till I got the BCM and saw the gunfighter series. Went balls deep buying the quality stuff, but reaching the point where i need pro help. My PRC152(go big or go home, cheap junk never works when you need it,) just gonna collect dust in the cage until I get trained. Nobody to call on it anyway, at least the comtacIII earpro has value right out of the box. Just got the blast diverter mounted($34 LOL,) does it even help w flash, or do i need to get creative with a can cover? Thinking I should offer up a bedroom for you(AP trusted guys) to stay in when you all want/need to visit NH, because my med condition (hit hard in the head=ADR((soon)) from my job 2yrs ago) can make learning slow for me sometimes.
            If you want to hear GOD laugh, tell him your plans for your life

          • spaceman July 12, 2021 at 22:14

            awww shoot…. DBAL-i2 just arrived,
            and wpt PVS-14 in the mail.
            Almost ready for one of Scouts courses.
            We need to get him to NH!

  3. Luke February 18, 2021 at 16:32

    What is your recommendation for night? IR mounted on a rifle along with night vision? I got a cheap nv I wasn’t going to spring for the $4k models. I wasn’t overly impressed wearing it at night that it would help me see much of my surroundings. It also hurt my eyes but if you were in a stationary position and could use it to locate bad guys and then paint the IR laser on the enemy could be valuable. I just haven’t gotten around to getting a good IR laser. This whole prepping thing can be overwhelming. I always feel like I’m missing something lol.

    • Johnny Paratrooper February 18, 2021 at 17:08

      You need a good quality set of NVG’s to effectively use a laser. You can always sell your current set of NVGs for a PVS-4. You don’t need an IR laser.
      http://nait.com/products-night-vision/night-vision-scope/anpvs-4-night-vision-scope/

      • Luke February 18, 2021 at 18:39

        Thanks Johnny, shit don’t come cheap. Even the scope. I have been spending excess cash into ammo because it’s worth will hold. Unless everyone turns in their damn guns lol. I hope they don’t but it scares me. If we all hold the line they won’t have much power to enforce. Right now for many things are somewhat normal and calm. And I fear they may think their rifle(s) are a fair trade off to keep the status quo. It’s obviously not the hardcore I’m worried about but these folks in the mushy middle. Anyhow I know i can always sell bullets to NCS lol.

        • Johnny Paratrooper February 18, 2021 at 19:34

          Bullets will hold their value. Not their current value, but you never know. Could stay the same. The hunting ammo didn’t change much.

        • VAdeputy February 18, 2021 at 23:11

          Just bought a white phosphor PVS 14 with 10yr warranty from JRH Enterprises (well known on internet forums as a good dude) for $3k….. Less if you are mil/LEO…. Pretty good deal if you ask me.

          • NC Scout February 18, 2021 at 23:14

            Rob’s a great guy.

          • Johnny Paratrooper February 18, 2021 at 23:14

            I feel obligated to mention our sponsor readymaderesources.com. But, I am glad you are squared away. You need a laser. I recommend the Steiner DBAL-A3. Good gear requires complimentary gear of the same quality.

      • Ben Leucking February 18, 2021 at 19:05

        Over the years I’ve been involved in ops to identify and report smuggling activity in border areas, where we would deploy two or more teams using NVG and handheld IR laser pointers. The purpose of the IR lasers was team safety, since positions could shift during the night. The ability to know precisely where the teams were located was important. Did individuals need weapon mounted IR lasers? No, but having handheld laser pointers was extremely beneficial.

        • Johnny Paratrooper February 18, 2021 at 19:46

          Weapon mounted lasers keep your hands free. But some of the handheld ones are extremely powerful. It depends on what you have. I had some nice kit in Baghdad.

      • Matt Bracken February 20, 2021 at 07:12

        I have a PVS-14 question. If it’s focused for distance, like 50 feet and out, everything close is blurry. (Something at your feet, like a vine or trip wire can be missed.) It’s a hassle rotating the focus ring. Are there any tricks of the trade for switching from far to near focus? Do you just leave it at far distance? This might not be a major problem in urban areas where the ground at your feet is more or less paved or just dirt, but in the southeastern woods, you have to be able to see what you are about to trip over, as well as see the guy who might be out there aiming a rifle your way. How do you deal with the near-far focus issue?

        • NC Scout February 20, 2021 at 07:43

          You’re not going to see a trip wire under NODs. You’re just not. The rest of it relies on getting comfortable with wearing them.

          • Matt Bracken February 20, 2021 at 08:52

            So if you are moving point-man-style for maximum stealth in thick to semi-open southeastern woods, do you keep a one-eye NOD like a 14 on distant focus, and just do the best you can close up with blurry night vision? If more than one person in your patrol has NV, this might open up more options, but realistically, I think we’ll be lucky to have one helmet-mounted modern NOD per patrol. Does the point man wear it automatically? I think a column on practical NOD TTPs on the civilian side would be very useful. A lot of military-oriented TTPs assume everybody in the squad/platoon is equipped with NODs, IR pointers/lasers etc. In reality, I think we’ll be lucky to have one decent NOD per patrol. How do we maximize that benefit? Point man or patrol leader? Etc. This needs a lot of thought and practical work.

          • Johnny Paratrooper February 20, 2021 at 12:22

            Prior to NOD’s being issued to everyone, the leaders would use NODs to manage their soldiers from the rear. This requires 70%-100% moon though, because the woods are just too dark during the night without the moon. I’ll have to read up on this. It would be cool to find an old FM or TM from the mid 90’s or late 80’s on the subject. I’ll start a post on the subject, if you come across anything useful send it my way. The primary concern is, as you mentioned in several of your writings and the “Civil Defense Manual” is the lack of citizens training in the woods.

        • Johnny Paratrooper February 20, 2021 at 12:17

          Great Question, This is really a three part answer. The primary problem of night vision is the lack of near/far focus, so you do need to pick one. In the wood line, near focus is the better answer depending on the density of your flora. You really need to watch your step for the purposes of stealth and safety. As far as observing trip wires, barb wire, or concertina wire this is very difficult. That stuff is basically invisible under NODs. You could, in theory, use a laser to “sweep” and “search” for one or the other but then you risk giving away your exact position. I’d take photos, or a video, of the process but technically that’s very much against the law. If you have any of those pyro alarm poppers that come with the little spool of wire you can test this in the backyard. NC Scout’s answer on the subject is the 99.9% correct answer. You just aren’t going to see them, even on a 100% full moon night.

          • Matt Bracken February 20, 2021 at 16:14

            Sometimes new ideas come from unexpected directions. Turning lemons into lemonade, or something like that, on the subject of trip wires being invisible to NODs. Well, for those ordinary folks who would like to make their AO more difficult for tyrants who might be well equipped with NODs, abundant trip wires would seem to make a lot of sense. According to old Vietnam-era lore, some villages pout out trip wires (attached to simple booby traps or just non-electric alarms like cans etc) at dusk, and took them in in the morning. That would be a young kid’s chore. Just simple wire across the trail stuff, attached to a grenade in a can, for example. Nothing fancy or difficult to arm and disarm. Along with modern wireless cameras and alarms, simple trip wires can make sneaking up on your abode undetected in silence a lot harder for Team Tyranny.

          • Johnny Paratrooper February 20, 2021 at 16:57

            Tanglefoot obstacles work great. Though they are more permanent considering the time required to build a good one. No way you could quickly navigate a tanglefoot with NODs on.

        • momg February 20, 2021 at 22:39

          Matt I’m surprised at your comment about walking in the woods with nods. I think I’ve read all your books and so know a little of your background. You served in the seventies and into the eighties. I served in the mid eighties and later in the mid nineties. In the eighties we used pvs5s and in the nineties pvs7s. The difference was astoundingly noticeable when I first used the 7s. Anyway I suppose you’re trying to move the conversation in a more practical direction. So the thing I try to do is remember the ground obstacles with the minds eye as I’m scanning the terrain ahead and choosing the route I want you travel. As I approach the area I know an obstacle is, I glance down to confirm it’s location. The image is blurry, but it provides enough feedback to keep from stumbling. Of course performing the exaggerated high stepping Ranger walk in concert with this technique generally keeps me off my face.

          • Matt Bracken February 21, 2021 at 08:38

            “So the thing I try to do is remember the ground obstacles with the minds eye as I’m scanning the terrain ahead and choosing the route I want you travel. As I approach the area I know an obstacle is, I glance down to confirm it’s location. The image is blurry, but it provides enough feedback to keep from stumbling.”
            That is exactly the kind of practical advice I was seeking! Thanks.

    • Mike February 19, 2021 at 05:39

      Luke, for the cheapest and most effective IR night-fighting setup on your rifle, I highly recommend a Perst-4 and an Inforce WML-X. The Perst is a $425 full-power Russian IR/visible laser that is rock solid, has great ergonomics and reliability. The Inforce WML-X gives you an IR flood and costs between $130 and $160. All in all, for under $600 you get the same capability as a $1200 DBAL or PEQ-15 clone, but you have a full-power mil-surp laser instead of a civilian-legal one.

      • Johnny Paratrooper February 19, 2021 at 10:31

        WHAT?! That’s awesome I’m looking into this.

        • SOG February 19, 2021 at 13:01

          Bro the Perst 4 is like a Class 3 mil spec laser, you can order from https://ivantactical.com/
          i been eyeing that inforce WMLX IR as well. The Holosun Green IR and Visible is slaved. i got one at a shop for 560 so these amazon prices are a bit inflated. with that said IR lasers and high dollar accessories and multipliers are actually increasing in value, example i paid 760 for a Dbal i2 those now sell for 900-1000 its crazy same with rifles, they have all increased in value.
          https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-Co-Aligned-Visible-Green-Illuminator/dp/B06WW6BPM5/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=holosun+laser&qid=1613757571&sr=8-3

          • Yankee February 20, 2021 at 11:31

            If you order from Ivantactical, be prepared for a LONG wait. I ordered some flash hiders from him in late November, but didn’t see them until earlier this week. It’s not his fault, just Russian customs. Spring for the DHL.

        • SOG February 19, 2021 at 13:19

          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbJiioEFmLR8tS3d8vtvccQ
          check out this channel, the host uses the most incredible array of laser. thermal,Night Vision and Drones with flir for hog mitigation. I cannot imagine the budget but for those who have never been overseas using nods and thermal devices and drone feeds it gives you a great understanding of the tactical application of all these civilian legal devices.
          therms would be my last big acquisition soon hopefully.
          LLTR

          • spaceman August 11, 2021 at 20:52

            Would you use your pvs14 in one eye, and a thermal in the other?
            They make those mounts that hold two pvs14’s
            you know…improvise?

      • vyt1az February 23, 2021 at 13:33

        I have a Perst-4 and it’s built like a tank and definitely full powered. I really like it but there are some serious downsides.
        1. It’s a laser only and the plug doesn’t pair up with common US-made illuminators or tape switches unless someone is making one now
        2. If I break it, I’ve got to wait months while it ships back to Russia and then back to the US
        I had to do a hack where I rigged up two tape switches to get my Surefire to fire at the same time as the Perst-4. The Perst-3 doesn’t have this problem but that thing is $1200+.
        It seems sexy on paper to get that full powered non-civilian laser, but unless you’ve got a magnified night vision setup, the high power for just the laser doesn’t do much since you’re only going to be able to shoot out to 200yrds.
        I think the Holosun and DBAL are still the best deals for this reason even though they lack the power of the Perst.
        I’d get a Perst if I wanted to shoot 600+ yards with a magnified NVG.

  4. momg February 18, 2021 at 19:28

    “They can blind you and your equipment”
    So in responding to the earlier article, I asked about preparing the objective with laser coverage prior to an assault. Has or is this done with the purpose of rendering the opfor nvgs inoperable prior to the assault?
    Is this something you have run into or been involved with?

    • Johnny Paratrooper February 18, 2021 at 19:45

      For a military assault, this makes sense. They have very powerful lasers to wash the area. For us, not really. Individual cameras, yes. Likely they will have protective lenses on their NODs if they are serious folks. Which is why intelligence is important.

    • NC Scout February 18, 2021 at 19:45

      It could be. I haven’t run into it personally but that’s probably because both AQI and the Taliban didn’t know what they didn’t know.

    • Johnny Paratrooper February 18, 2021 at 19:57

      https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21925/no-china-probably-hasnt-built-a-laser-assault-rifle-that-can-carbonize-people
      That’s what this is for. And likely what the ship, aircraft, and drone mounted lasers are for too. Frying optical and targeting equipment before a mission. Or, in the case of thermal targeting and tracking weapons like the Stinger Missile or TOW, creating a “dead” targeting system. Which means you are basically safe as long as you maneuver.

      • momg February 18, 2021 at 21:35

        Ok, so this all begs the question. Is the Light Interference Filter an adequate defense in a laser washing scenario? The product we spoke of earlier was described to me by the vendor as being a military surplus item. So it seems to me that it could be of older technology that may or may not perform as well as one would expect. The vendors response to my questions was not satisfying.
        It was also mentioned earlier that the laser eye protection was being considered for use behind the nod. If using the Light Interference Filter on nods with two ocular lenses, like the pvs7, it seems the eye pro would be unnecessary.
        Lastly, if there are different eye pro to handle different laser wavelengths, how could you expect the Light Interference Filter to always be effective?
        Hey, I’ll stop with all the questions if I’m not helping with the process. However these are questions I’ve had about nods and lasers bouncing around in my pea brain for quite a while. Your articles brought them back to the surface, so I thought I’d ask someone who seems to know more than I do.

        • Johnny Paratrooper February 18, 2021 at 22:21

          You need the light interference filter. It protects the NODS. Eyepro is a must at all times; Several vendors make laser safe eye pro. Questions are why we are here; Keep them coming.

          • SOG February 19, 2021 at 12:54

            source on lens covers for PVS 14? where can you find laser protecting filters?

          • vyt1az February 23, 2021 at 13:22

            I know I replied to MMOG on another article, but since it was brought up here again; the LIF doesn’t block IR lasers like the ones described in this article.
            If it did, you wouldn’t be able to see your own IR light. The LIF was designed to stop extremely bright green lasers – useful for the ANTIFA crowd shining your NODs.
            If someone scores a direct hit on your PVS14 with a full power IR laser though, it won’t protect it.
            This shows the LIF blocks green lasers only:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGEFLsNPqdY
            This is Sam from Greenline Tactical discussion the fact that it’s a mistaken belief
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9bHPc2QhAo
            This is a write up explaining the origin of the LIF
            https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/05/24/friday-night-lights-that-sweet-nvg-filtered-life-keeping-out-the-bad/
            I believe vendors are often mistaken and don’t understand what it does and wrongly describe it when listing it. The LIF has a small amount of utility but it doesn’t do what people often think it does.
            Thanks for a solid article FWIW.

          • Johnny Paratrooper February 23, 2021 at 13:29

            Everyone with NODs wants to purchase an LIF.

          • momg February 24, 2021 at 19:13

            vyt1az
            Thanks for the good info. The article from the firearm blog on all the different types of filters is an excellent primer. What I’m learning is that these nods are a lot more fragile than people tend to think. If my source claiming the military (and likely leo) use of laser washing is correct, then the freefor use of nods should require a lot more tactical planning than most could even conceive of. Any plan for long term night vision capability will require multiple units and/or spare parts in abundance. I agree with Matt, that there will likely be very few nods in any freefor group to begin with, much less groups capable of repairing what they have.

          • Johnny Paratrooper February 24, 2021 at 19:18

            I can fix NODs… And yes, Military and Law enforcement lasers are very, very powerful. They can wash out NODs permanently. Ours, depending on the model, are temporary or permanent if given enough of a dose.

          • momg February 24, 2021 at 20:27

            Ok then, Johnny, maybe you could do a write up on the care, maintenance and repair of nods. Please also provide a list of most common issues and recommend spare parts. Oh, and where to get them.

          • Johnny Paratrooper February 24, 2021 at 20:37

            On it. I get it out ASAP.

  5. Michael B February 19, 2021 at 10:53

    I have a question about frying flirs through their lenses. Would a 20 watt UV laser have enough power from a few hundred yards? I think we can DIY from broken BluRay players. Just point me in the right direction and I’ll go check it out and post my opinions back here. Thanks

  6. LP February 19, 2021 at 11:07

    With the talk and movement towards banning things and certain banks restricting what can be purchased, what spare parts should someone consider getting for a laser while we still can? I have a I2 and purchased an additional cover for the laser, Illuminator and the piece that attaches the battery cap to the I2. And have been thinking about getting an o ring for the battery cap and an additional battery cap. Should I get the o ring and battery cap and what else?

    • Johnny Paratrooper February 19, 2021 at 12:05

      All great ideas, but the best “spare parts” is buying a complete system. AKA, one is none, and two is one. War is a team sport, bring a friend… and in case he doesn’t have a rifle system, make sure you have one for him.

      • spaceman February 21, 2021 at 01:25

        I could hand ?em a saiga 12, but my rifle stays w me…
        Dont show up w your d in your hand

  7. SOG February 20, 2021 at 07:42

    Flash Cans will blow the gases forward, so there is still a flash but infront versus laterally. it also assist blowing the sound forward. now blast diffusers such as the surefire warden will tighten up the pattern so to speak. you have a lot of resources in NH Sig Academy, Ridgeline, the Ham Radio Outlet. For a Can you can check out locally, Sig Proshop, Shootersoutpost or White Birch Armory in Dover, all in stock.
    hope that helps, maybe we should connect
    LiveFreeorDIE

    • spaceman February 21, 2021 at 00:43

      so diverter with friends and at nt, and BCM MOD1 in the daytime?

      • SOG February 21, 2021 at 13:56

        https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcmgunfighter-compensator-mod-1-5-56/
        Tuned slots and interior cone offer maximum in recoil mitigations, compensation of muzzle-rise, and flash reduction.
        Dual action brake minimizes side pressure and designed to have much less noise associated with typical compensators. Makes it perfect for working in teams for CQB. It is a compensator that is built for the 21st Century Gunfighter!
        if this is what you have you are good to go.. compensators mitigage flash and gases this is fine until you get a suppressor.

        • spaceman February 22, 2021 at 11:54

          Hi SOG, I’m signing in with the proton mail acct. Its cool for the MOD to share it with you if they do that sort of thing. I suppose it will create less digital exhaust, and make contact a bit more secure. I’ll start using it to post going forward. I don’t have much faith in digital anonymity tho. Beers going down a little to smooth the other night, I’v been a lurker for a while, but just started posting. Guess I’m still learning the hard way

          • SOG February 22, 2021 at 12:45

            mod can send it

  8. spaceman February 21, 2021 at 00:26

    At first, i considered asking the mod to delete the last comment,
    imagining i could protect myself from the possible
    unintended consequences
    of that last post.
    The MOD gave me ample time to request a retraction
    but the truth is,
    WE need to speak truth to each other without fear of the consequences.
    The story has already BEEN WRITEN.
    You either fear the wrath of GOD,
    or you are not held in is hand, protected by his wing
    When that time comes
    the decisions we make will be judged by a just LORD
    Those who think a TOR browser protects their identity
    do not understand the reality of tech advancements by .gov
    Its time to tighten up your skirt hangers and stand strong
    They have made it clear that the
    Law of the Jungle rules now apply
    Live on your feet, or die on your knees
    TO MOD>>>
    only post if this if you agree
    spaceman

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