Living with PTSD for Fifty Years, by Scipio

In the years during and after the Vietnam War I read about some Vietnam Vets going berserk and shooting up places.  Post Offices seemed to be a favorite spot and that’s where the term “going postal” came from.  Another favorite place was the VA. Since my first visit to the VA three years ago, I can see why.

I saw PTSD eat up two of my closest friends from high school.  They shared stories of the things they experienced in the 101st Airborne and the Second Marines in Vietnam.  It was horrible. I was no help to them because I incorrectly thought they would “get over it”. Besides I did not know what to do and little was known of it then.  I thought by having similar experiences and lending them an understanding ear would help.  It didn’t.  They needed intervention, and I didn’t know it at the time or what to do even if I did.  Mental illness, in all its forms, has a very low priority in America even today.

Bob, the Marine, (not his real name) told me in detail the first person he killed; it was a woman. One day I asked him how he got his Purple Heart. He nonchalantly said it was when an explosion sent shrapnel ripping into the side of his head accompanied by body parts of his buddy beside him.  He went through stuff like that.

Bill, airborne, stationed at Hue during Tet I believe, didn’t talk much about it.  When I asked him about his Purple Heart, he just smiled and said “it was just a lot of shit going on.” I had read stories about Hue, some hand-to-hand combat there, and I could imagine what he went through.

I didn’t experience anything like that.  My most traumatic experience was coming up on a little eight-year-old boy we accidently killed seeing him lying there with his brains spilling out of his head. Another time a ¾ ton truck turned over trapping some of our guy’s underneath.  I helped roll the truck off them and assisting them with limbs going in directions they shouldn’t have.  There were scarry nights on the DMZ locked, loaded, and ready. Then the glorious return home when I was psychologically ambushed at the St. Louis Airport by a bunch of hippies, pointing at my medals asking, “Is this one for murder? Is this one was for killing babies?” and on and on.

I knew I returned a different person, but the way I saw it I had matured in many ways and I now had a world perspective I did not have when I left. I didn’t curse before the Army, but now I cursed all the time and didn’t care who heard me, even my mom. Things and people, especially politicians, I had respect for before, I now held in contempt.

I went to college just because I had the GI bill, not to get an education. I wanted to chill out and enjoy all the “free love” going around campus.  I didn’t know you had to pass classes!  I thought you just paid four years tuition, have fun, and afterwards settle down and get a job.  A letter from the Dean’s office the summer after my first year notified me my 1.26 GPA landed me on academic probation. Further it stated if I wanted to continue my studies, I needed at least a 3.5 next semester. A light bulb went off in my head! So that’s what that 2.0 and 3.0 etc. conversations my classmates were talking about meant?

I pulled it out academically, but failed miserably with girlfriend relationships that kept falling apart.  I never wanted to break up with any of them, but things just seemed to come off the rails, and my girlfriends got hurt. I knew I was responsible, but I didn’t know what I was doing wrong.

After college I got married to the most loving and tolerant person in the world.  She saved me, but at her own personal cost being with me.  Although my children got my best, they also got my worst.  I am sure they are each to some degree scarred by it today as adults.

Yes, I had heard of PTSD, but I thought that was for Vietnam Vets like my high school buddies.  But I didn’t go to Vietnam; I went to Korea. Besides nothing horrible happened to me like Bob and Bill.

As the years rolled by, about every five years, I changed jobs finding fault with my employer. Frustrated I tried different career paths winding up quitting within five years there also.  I don’t have a cushy pension for over fifty years of work because of it. An avid sports fan and athlete, I was interested in all sports; high school, college, and pro, but I began to lose interest. Today I only care about one college football team and my interest there is starting to fade.  I have been a fan since 1962, but this may be my last year pulling for them.  I was once an avid movie buff.  One year I had literally seen every movie nominated for an Oscar. Now I only go to movies about once every three to five years and that’s because it’s done as a family event forcing me to go. I used to be a sharp dresser, dressed in the latest styles.  Now, except for Sunday go-to-meeting clothes, most my clothes come from a thrift shop. I have grown a beard, not because I think it’s cool, but because it minimizes the amount of personal grooming, I have to make daily.

I didn’t have a hint that I may have PTSD until twenty years ago when I had, for lack of a better word, a “flashback” of something bad that had happened to me over twenty years before, and it was completely out of my conscious memory until that moment.  I brushed it off and never thought it might be PTSD, never made the connection, besides I wasn’t in Vietnam, right? Case closed.

Twenty years later circumstances forced me to change to another medical practice.  I had never seen my new doctor, nor he I.  He came into the room to examine me, and though I never knew him, I could tell he was pretty much shaken up about something.  He said, “I want you to tell me everything that has happened to you physically; any moles, warts, operations, etc.  Tell me Everything. I just had to tell my favorite patient they only had six months to live.  I had missed something previously.  That patient is my wife.”

I said, “even the compound fracture of my right arm when I was sixteen?” He said, “Everything”. I was like that scene in the movie, “Goonies”, (without the crying part) where the fat kid, Chunk, spilled his guts about the worst thing he ever did was to bring some fake puke to the movie theatre, throw it from the balcony above to the patrons below making everyone in the theatre start puking.  I told the Doc everything from my cancer surgery to the warts on my big toe.

When I finished, he looked at me and said, “I think you have PTSD from the issues you tell me you are having like trouble sleeping, sleep apnea, hyper vigilance, and other issues.” I was stunned.  I said, “But, I wasn’t in Vietnam.” He said you didn’t have to be.   You just have to be traumatized.  Some people get PTSD from rape or bad car wrecks.  It’s not just Vietnam Vets.” He said, “Are you willing to go to a psychiatrist for an evaluation?” I said, “Sure”, thinking nothing would come of it.

I went to the psychiatrist, we talked, and he said I definitely had PTSD.  Out of nowhere I burst out crying. Up until that time in my life, I didn’t cry.  I had no idea.  Deep down inside I felt something was wrong with me, but I didn’t know what.  Following this it was ten years later before I went to the VA seeking help because I thought my story was wimpy compared to Bob and Bill’s, and they were comparatively. I felt like a Pansy letting the little that I experienced affect me so much. I was embarrassed.  What would “real men” think of me if they found out?

How do I live?  Without thinking, I always sit in a restaurant in the back corner even if I have to wait for that table.  I get startled when a sudden loud noise happens behind me, and stuff like that.  I sleep with a Glock by my bed. I carry everywhere I go.

But, that’s the easy part.  It’s being in a “thousand-yard stare” and not knowing it only to hear your wife say, “Where have you been?” That leaves me empty. Or it’s my grandkids asking me to stay longer at family gatherings which makes me feel I am cheating them leaving early. It’s wondering what psychological damage I inflicted upon my children.  It’s the painful memories of broken relationships I caused. Its wondering how much better my marriage might be. It’s all the friends I no longer have. It’s wondering is there something else down in my deep subconscious that is going to come roaring out someday?  That’s the horror movie I live in, and I’m its main star.

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Patriotman currently ekes out a survivalist lifestyle in a suburban northeastern state as best as he can. He has varied experience in political science, public policy, biological sciences, and higher education. Proudly Catholic and an Eagle Scout, he has no military experience and thus offers a relatable perspective for the average suburban prepper who is preparing for troubled times on the horizon with less than ideal teams and in less than ideal locations. Brushbeater Store Page: http://bit.ly/BrushbeaterStore

5 Comments

  1. CPL Antero Rokka July 8, 2022 at 07:11

    Thanks for sharing, Bro.

    Just some advice: live for TODAY. Enjoy and savor each minute that’s right before your nose. Try and be the very best you can be. In little stuff. Increments. As is said: Better always beats “that’s good enough.”

    Forget about yesterday, as well as tomorrow–since ya can’t do a damn thing about either right now.

    That young carpenter from Nazareth has helped me out a lot. YMMV.

  2. daw July 8, 2022 at 09:51

    I have no doubt this post has and will save lives. Baring your soul like that was absolutely mighty. “He sent His Word and healed them, and delivered them from their destruction.” Psalm 107:20

  3. C71M July 8, 2022 at 10:21

    Scipio:

    What you describe I submit is what most GI’s experience. You are not strange, You are not weird. You have the mind tools to live with the experiences that life’s journey placed in your path.

    We cannot control what happens to us, we can only control how we respond.

    I returned from Viet-Nam on a Freedom Bird 707 in October of 1969 dressed in my presentable, but less shitty than usual fatigues. As we GI’s left the departure ramp in California, some of the “locals” threw crap at us. Looked like uneaten food. Part of a hamburger I recall in my general direction.

    We had been warned to change out in to civvies before landing back in the “world”. Most of us didn’t have the nice 1505 khakis anymore. Many, like myself, didn’t understand the hate towards us. We, and the throwers, were all nearly the same age, fellow countrymen. And they threw shit at us????? HUH?

    Of course I knew of the anti-war movement. Free country right?, say what you want. But the thrown food at us GI’s for doing our duty, that stuck with me hard. Still irritates the crap out of me as if it were last week. Yes, Viet-Nam was a superb testing ground for equipment, tactics, skill set development, no doubt prep for the next war. But the ROE got young men “wasted” , aircraft & pilots downed, and taxpayers wealth spent. No combatives in the rubber plantations. Can’t have those trees damaged…protect rubber? why are we here ?

    First week at home, I went to local bank to apply for a car loan. I had saved a substantial down payment. I wanted that 69 Dodge Charger 440cubic in, Holley four, Hurst shifter. Sitting in front of the desk of a loan officer, we started the process. When I stated I had saved an amount for down payment from my Viet-Nam tour, he leaned back in his chair and gazed out the front window. “So you are making a down payment with blood money?” I was without words…stunned. I quietly stood up, reached to my left with both hands and grabbed everything on his desk and pulled it off onto the floor. Phones, intercom, paper piles, desk pads..everything. I walked out. No police came to my parents home either.

    I struggled through college. Determined to finish and be one of the few of the seven brothers and sisters that got their degree. Physics (X-ray) was hard, but I kept at it. Used the GI bill for its full continuous 48 months and borrowed even more. Paid it all back too because I was responsible. I felt out of place in the sea of college students where most of their horrid experiences was not having their parents give them enough allowance. So I lived off campus. It was quiet.

    So through life I stayed as a self-employed person. Just too difficult to work among some humans each day. Oh I tried a few jobs, just didn’t last. Why?, because most people just don’t give a shit about how they treat others, completing their tasks with 110% performance was a rarity. I cannot stomach the little petty “clubs”. I refused to join a union. I viewed a job as one either performs it well or your ass is gone.

    I meet different humans of every color, background, age..each day. I get along with 99.9% and make the effort to be exceedingly helpful with all that I meet. Help a little old lady get that box of cereal on the top shelf while at the local grocery store. Help an elderly or disabled person into/out of their vehicle. Being useful isn’t difficult. Any customer not understanding what is expected by the convoluted/ confusing regulations of my field, they can text or call me anytime. Courteous to all is what my parents taught me. Life is hard, so be nice. The Golden Rule is lost on so many and not taught at all it seems.

    My wife is very, very understanding. We have no children and that is another story. At the end of the day, I must have my solitude. No one likes to be alone, no one. Most of us have experienced that very deep alone feeling at least once. Yes, you recall. It was when you first left home or in a place so foreign you feel like its Mars. Yet, GI’s found the head tools to wade through. GI’s have the best ability to handle the reality of the unexpected.

    The VA Hospital, only went there once. May never return. No one seemed to care anyway.

    Now in my later years I look forward to sitting out on my small farm in the evening. Often with a small fire. It is that strong medicine of solitude again. The need to replenish the soul & mind. Always in awe of Nature. In the evening as the shadows grow long, birds giving their song, flow of water in the nearby creek, my two German Shepherds with me, Melissa and I silently absorbing the richness of God’s Creation. I hear a a helicopter in the distance. I always look up. I am thankful for the Lord’s grace and the two Guardian Angels that have been with me. Oh yes, I know there are two. I mean, I truly know.

    May all of you enjoy your day. Be thankful for what you have and what you have experienced. We may need to draw upon those soon.

    Truly God’s Blessing to all.

    • Scipio July 8, 2022 at 18:40

      C71M your comment was better than my post! Maybe there are men out there struggling alone and think they are “weird” as you said. No, they are not. Everybody has some baggage dumped on them they don’t deserve. Find help where ever you can. You are not alone in your struggle. My wife and my Lord has pulled me through. One day I will go to heaven where there are no scars. BTW I came back in 1967 and we weren’t warned of what would happen to us. We were blind sided.

  4. spingerah July 8, 2022 at 10:42

    Thank you Mr. Scipio.
    Many parallels.

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