Don Shift Sends: My Christopher Dorner Experience and What Police May Do During an Insurrection

You know a day that starts off with your partner flippantly warning you to “watch out for a large, angry black ex-cop” who killed some people is going to be an interesting day. I took the warning in stride because it sounded ridiculous and being murdered was a regular job hazard. The day got even more interesting when I found out he had a connection to the area I was patrolling and might even be there. Around 1000, I got called back to the station for a special briefing.

This is when the AM radio reports of Christopher Dorner’s night of rampage I’d been listening too on and off started to make sense. Turns out he had a loose tie to my jurisdiction, and given the fact that the night before two cops were shot, the situation had turned from a local curiosity to a real threat. It was the ambushes that startled everyone (mostly the brass). We in the field felt a little unsettled and “checked six” more frequently.

Operations changed. The mostly elderly Citizen Patrol was taken off the streets. All unarmed, uniformed staff was as well. Motorcycle cops were put in cars. To prevent a car shortage, some people had to double up on patrol (usually we ran one-man units). Some of the suddenly vehicle-less were given the option of hanging around the station or just using our personal time rather than being superfluous.

This was not an unusual response from San Diego to Central California. Similar modifications were made to patrol operations across the Southland. LAPD went on “tactical” alert or 12 on 12 off (my agency used 12 hour Panama shifts.) Non-emergency calls were handled by phone or at the station. Traffic enforcement stopped. Institutional fear was real.

Individually, we were more wary than afraid. There was a kind of tense excitement in the air like before a hurricane. Every cop in Southern California was on high alert. The public felt sympathy for law enforcement like after 9/11. Briefings started with the latest info that usually had already been leaked to the press.

Over the weekend Dorner was no longer believed to be in our area or a threat to us, so we went back to normal operations by Monday. Briefing included warnings not to try and start our own personal investigation as cops all over the LA basin were doing.  This came to a head when he was finally cornered.

The San Bernadino Sheriff literally had to say “no thanks, stay away” to other agencies because so many cops were rushing to the shootout scene. Traffic was becoming congested and cops were getting in the way of the actual investigators and apprehension team. Every SWAT team in SoCal wanted a piece of him. It all resolved when Dorner barricaded himself in a cabin he burglarized and shot himself when SWAT arrived.

Dorner was an aberration in law enforcement. He wasn’t cut out for the job and turned his failure into excuses and a crusade. LAPD doesn’t have a sterling reputation of integrity but none of that justifies what Dorner did. Remember, to start his spree he murdered the daughter and her fiancé of the attorney who represented him. Next he shot at officers investigating a sighting of him, and after that, he ambushed two Riverside police officers before going on the run.

The larger response that Dorner’s actions generated is what I want to look at. Cops were tense and more alert than usual. For the first few days, it felt like we had a special mission just to look out for this guy whether or not we were directly participating. LAPD cops I know described it as more of feeling like they had a target on their back, though the odds of them being personally targeted was small.

Institutional panic was something else entirely as command staffs put their agencies on the defensive. Non-essential operations were chopped back for 20 million citizens. Manpower shifted to guard details and extra officers on patrol, costing lots in overtime pay. Who knows how many hours were wasted as extra-curricular investigations went on. This was all because of one man.

Though I cannot personally comment on what the situation was like after the Boston Bombings, during the search phase we saw what effective martial law was like. Americans will not like door-to-door and house-to-house searches. Lockdowns won’t be like with COVID, but enforced by soldiers and cops with bad attitudes. On top of all of this, the media will be panicking the public. I’m willing to bet a future insurrection will also target civilians of differing ethnicities and ideologies, not just police and government folks.

Widespread such attacks will paralyze American law enforcement. Department heads will err on the side of caution, even if the officers want to be brave. Directly affected agencies will want revenge and have their resources stretched by the investigation and response to the attacks. At-risk agencies will change their operations to provide for greater officer safety at the detriment to policing for the public.

Without a known suspect like Dorner, everyone will be a suspect. Those panicked cops that shot up a random Toyota? Yeah, that’ll be common. Average traffic stops will be more tense for both parties as officers are more circumspect about safety techniques. Officers will probably be more aggressive when resistance is shown or they perceive a threat. Yes, they will be more trigger happy.

2020 is a good example of what happens when police pull back in terms of encouraging criminality. Homicides went from aberrantly low during the lockdown to a quickly rising tide. In LA, police pursuits went through the roof in early summer. I remember one night there were several going on at once and TV news couldn’t get choppers on them all. “Sideshows” where street racers take over an intersection were a scourge as well.

All this will take is perhaps a team of a few cop killers out there, never mind a general insurrection. The evidence for this is that in 2020, officers were at perceived great risk of political persecution if they used force suppressing the riots. Liberal policies also permitted this to go on. The attitude then was “If they want to tie our hands, this is what they will get.” Now imagine cops being killed. Yeah, they’ll sit on their hands.

Cops accept that we might be killed in an accident or by a criminal, not that we’re going to get assassinated. Police forces are not like the military where desertion can get you shot; a cop can quit or call in sick. There are ways of collecting one’s check by half-assing it and hiding all shift if necessary. Whatever the result, the public will pay the price with an increase in crime as crooks take advantage of officers’ distraction and demoralization.

All of this is a recipe for a poop sandwich because more crime, less traditional policing, and actual danger from the violence of an insurrection will frustrate and scare people. Official overreaction tends to polarize people and America is already on the edge. Heck, agitators would love to strike against the criminal justice system and even try to pit the people against the police.

How Police Might React to an Insurrection or Insurgency

Policing will break down as officers cannot safely respond or simply quit. Those with a vested interest in chaos will keep this up until they achieve their desired goal, such as a major metropolitan police agency becoming non-mission capable.

This harms us all because police act as a moderating influence in our society. Without that moderating influence, crime and disorder goes up, just like in the cities that shat on their officers or “de-policed.” Suddenly, you’re on your own. That sounds well and good until the gang members and real predators in society see that there is no police to interfere with them. Police do act as the security net for many people in our communities who are unable or willing to protect themselves. We all benefit from this prophylactic effect.

Police will eventually stop doing their job if it is too dangerous. Remember, they are people too who will also be facing their own financial difficulties. Public safety is not worth being assassinated over when the world has gone stupid.

My personal fear is that the criminal justice system remains extant but is dysfunctional enough to deny the benefit of police protection but allow prosecution and persecution of disfavored groups. Without the rule of law, every man for himself will be better because at least then civilian mutual defense groups can operate as necessary, instead of with one hand tied behind their back. Naturally, biased policing in that form would only spur further reprisals as the government cracks down on those who defend themselves.

Backing up, initial attacks will be treated will be treated as a local, isolated cop-killing, maybe with a copycat element. As attacks become coordinated and sophisticated, the Feds will get involved and use it as an excuse to start political persecution. If things get too widespread, military forces will be required to engage in counter-insurgent operations. At that point, we’ll already be in a civil war and the soldiers will have to decide what side they want to be on.

However it does shake out, the future is one without police. You will be on your own and you and your neighbors will have to figure out how the peace was kept ages ago. For those unable or unwilling to defend themselves, things will be very bad as they are at the mercy of the bad guys. Prepare for an interim period of street terrorism, rampant crime, and just enough police to catch you.

Individual officer’s response

  • More aggressive officer safety protocols were followed than normal, i.e. ordering persons out of a vehicle for weapons search.
  • Officers from multiple agencies began their own investigations, often without official sanction.
  • Officers would respond to reported sightings unbidden under the guise of “mutual aid.”
  • So many cops responded to the final standoff that roads were clogged and the incident commander had to tell uninvolved cops to leave.
  • Officers became less proactive and tried to have less contact with strangers; i.e. staying in their vehicles.
  • Traffic enforcement went down (good or bad, depending on how you look at it).

Agency responses

  • Normal policing operations were disrupted across Southern California in unexpected ways.
  • Numbers of officers on the street shifted variously; more officers in some places, fewer cars as officers doubled up, etc.
  • Civilian and volunteer staff were pulled out of the field.
  • Training and time-off was cancelled.

Police-public interaction effects

  • Police became more jumpy, for example the LAPD detail that shot up two newspaper delivery women in a totally unrelated vehicle.
  • Stops of suspected vehicles were more tense and cautious than usual.
  • The public was not really affected except in the mountains when he was finally “cornered” and on the run in the snow.
  • Citizens/officer interactions became a little more adversarial as officers took a more safety oriented approach vs. public relations.

Police behavior changes in a future scenario

  • Policing will be less proactive as officers seek to have less contact with the public and less physical exposure.
  • Officers will not want to get into an ambush setup by a deliberate, egregious violation in front of them and thus will ignore more criminal acts.
  • Police will favor officer safety versus courtesy and may employ pat-downs, vehicle searches, and handcuffing for minor offenses when they didn’t before.
  • Officers will be more aggressive and more likely to quickly resort to force, including deadly force.
  • More officers will respond to incidents in case they go sideways or for general security purposes.
  • Fewer officers will be able to respond as they are tied up with investigations or security details.
  • SWAT team responses will be more common to lesser circumstances.
  • Operations involving actual or suspected insurgents will generate a massive police response with SWAT elements. This may further drain resources from other areas.
  • Increased use and deployment of special weapons or hard plate armor.
  • Lockdowns and roadblocks, enforced by arrest, may be common.

Risk to citizens in a future scenario

  • Citizens will be at greater risk of being caught in the crossfire of police or insurgents.
  • Trigger happy or jumpy officers with poor emotional discipline will likely shoot innocent people under mistaken circumstances.
  • Officers will be less tolerant of challenges to their authority, even if the citizen is in the right, posing a risk of “contempt of cop” incidents.
  • Citizens may be caught up in lockdowns, roadblocks, subject to searches, etc. as a precautionary measure.
  • Unhappy citizens exercising their constitutional rights or legally going about their lives may be harassed by police/military while in martial law type conditions.

About the author: Don Shift is a veteran of the Ventura County (CA) Sheriff’s Office and is a student of emergency response, disasters, and history. He is the author of several post-apocalyptic survival novels about nuclear war, EMP (Hard Favored Rage and Blood Dimmed Tide), and the non-fiction Suburban Defense guide.

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15 Comments

  1. WWilson January 10, 2022 at 11:04

    Well that kind of tells me that the po po ain’t going to be officer friendly to joe public, act accordingly.

    • Don Shift January 10, 2022 at 17:08

      It depends on how…incompetent and cowardly your local guys are. Most of my guys kinda laughed it off and just upped our situation awareness. As for LAPD…yeah, well.

  2. Madman_Actual January 10, 2022 at 13:23

    My area doesn’t have much of a police presence. The Department of the city nearby loans a few out to hang around. State police drive through sometimes. It’s hard to say what sort of shenanigans would go on. Probably a lot of Bubbas and Fudds hollering and pointing guns.

  3. Insurance_Agent January 10, 2022 at 13:34

    All thing being equal; earlier in a crisis event:

    The larger the population and larger local departments will see a more heavy handed the response.

    The smaller the population, and accordingly the smaller the local department size the less you will see of the police.

  4. Ghostmann January 10, 2022 at 13:58

    In my AO, pretty much everything more intense than a traffic stop ends up with ERT being called in. It’s kind of laughable, because half the time the suspect gets away and outruns the big black bearcats and MRAPS, or just flat out outsmarts them. The one where there was a six hour standoff over a road rage shooting… Ended with the suspect having vanished. They used robots and drones as well.

    The suspect was hiding in the neighbors home and the kitted out cops missed him entirely. He was arrested a few weeks later, more than likely tracked via cell phone by the US Marshals.

    Let that sink in for a minute.

    This past weekend they were riding around in their light armor with their guns out looking for another suspect. He was arrested in NJ the next day and the ERT had no idea and missed him entirely.

    All my local are all leftists, woke, and have marched in support of BLM last summer.

    They are so reliant on Google it’s pretty pathetic.

    Funny, there are some Patron lessons really staring me back in the face with the post. Just sayin.

  5. SOG January 10, 2022 at 15:58

    Citizens/officer interactions became a little more adversarial as officers took a more safety oriented approach vs. public relations. this is already the case just hop on youtube, CA cops are toxic

    Risk to citizens in a future scenario

    Citizens will be at greater risk of being caught in the crossfire of police or insurgents. – CA shot some lil girl in a dressing room poor training, buck fever everyone wants to get in on range time vs knuckling up two or three cops could have subdued that guy with batons or a pistol not a M16A2 with an acog in a macy;s or whatever

    Trigger happy or jumpy officers with poor emotional discipline will likely shoot innocent people under mistaken circumstances.
    already here bro…

    Officers will be less tolerant of challenges to their authority, even if the citizen is in the right, posing a risk of “contempt of cop” incidents. already here for decades,

    Citizens may be caught up in lockdowns, roadblocks, subject to searches, etc. as a precautionary measure.
    Unhappy citizens exercising their constitutional rights or legally going about their lives may be harassed by police/military while in martial law type conditions. on police side we been here for decades.

    the problem is the cops will enforce any mandate order or law no matter how heinous or what atrocity, just doing my job pension chasers will be prevalent.

    look at boston cops were chasing leads all over barging into houses, who found the living brother? some dude whose boat he was hiding in,subways cops unloaded on another cop on accident thankfully he lived.then the Staties shot up the boat and let the tsarniav kid live.

    • Taxpayer January 11, 2022 at 09:12

      SOG’s assessment rings true. We need to look further into failure to see what is coming.

      In the “hood” gangs provide more natural law, in Mexico the cartels; we will likely see a rise of an alternative to police as they consume any remaining legitimacy and social capital. I’m not looking forward to the day having the Cartels hang the corpse of a cop from an overpass is superior to going to court but I expect to see that day.

      • Don Shift January 11, 2022 at 10:33

        What scares me more is if the cartels get into Islam instead of that creepy Santa Muerta death cult. Imagine a future where a caliphate has risen again and is in active trade with cartels to smuggle terrorists into America. Sicarios start converting to all powerful Islam because of the “allure” of the Wahabist death cult aspects.

  6. Dana Henry January 10, 2022 at 16:18

    Our sheriff’s department is one of us. State & Fed would not get the same level of cooperation. Knowing where LE and their family live is a deterrent to police abuse. We live,shop and worship together. Natural Law will be accepted in a break down. We prefer to have police agencies taking care of business but you gotta do what you gotta do.

  7. mistermisfit01 January 11, 2022 at 07:12

    law enforcement is not your friend.

    • john ANDREW weber January 11, 2022 at 12:31

      lasd grege von hosen , shot my unarmed 16 yr old son14 times in the back then stood over him and put 2 more in him then lasd impeaded the fire dept and ambulance, then after all the lies and bs from there own investigation and cover up allowed the dept to stay on force under arms,all the arguements prow and con about immunity , dosent change the constutition ‘equeel justice under the law’, any body else we would have been in county fighting over blognia sanwitches, hoping for a good deal and a low bond,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgpMoQHEd4I sember fi spongebob out

  8. Saber 7 January 11, 2022 at 10:31

    Avoid cops as they are agents of the state and thus do NOT have your best interest in mind.
    Never talk to cops for the very same reason.
    Cops can LEGALLY LIE to you but you can not lie to them. (WTF?)
    The Patriot Act (IS NOT). (See the 6JAN detainees)
    If and when the shooting starts and cops/orks mindlessly follow UNLAWFUL ORDERS it will be HIPS ANS HEADS.
    No one made you be an agent of the state that was YOUR decision. some of us have studied our Constitution and know our rights, RIGHTS WHICH COME FROM GOD NOT THE STATE.
    I will not obey unlawful orders from cops/orks. (The Patriot Act is not).
    Your Family members will be fair game. Local, local, local, maintain ones local lists. FFF

    Don might be an upstanding gentleman however his word choice used and how this is written sounds more like an US vrs THEM attitude. Typical career cop/ork mindset.

  9. JW January 13, 2022 at 12:12

    Study the events in the fall of Yugoslavia, especially what happened in Sarajevo. Namely, the cops stopped coming to work when the government broke down, and then formed their own gangs. They used their uniforms to add a layer of crimes against the citizens and quickly were not regarded as any form of savior. They became a notorious footnote in the problem.

    • Johnny Paratrooper January 13, 2022 at 17:25

      Probably because they were Soviet assets and Communist police who did nothing but help themselves.
      There are videos of some of these police declaring “The last time we had a nation, you invited hHitler in”
      While flying Hammer and Sickles in the background and wearing good comrade pins on their uniforms.

      They weren’t a notorious problem. They also allied with the Islamist police forces.
      They were all THE problem.

  10. Parachutin Frogman January 14, 2022 at 21:53

    Don, thanks kindly for your report. Cheers, sir.

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